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		<title>Comment on Competition Review by Marx</title>
		<link>http://www.thehockeyshow.org/main/ths/competition-review-2/#comment-4400</link>
		<dc:creator>Marx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 00:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No doubt fringe clubs stuck in the up down cycle of SL1 / SL2 need help over more than 1 year to remain in SL1.

But the proposed premier league rules are outrageous.

The rules not only assist these fringe clubs - they severely disadvantage the top tier clubs who have earned the right to be top tier clubs through decades of harder work in administration and on ground performance.

Has anyone closely looked at the 18 match schedule for 12 teams? The seeding and number of games between the top 4 and the bottom 2 is sickening.

What is HV trying to do? Make it easy and fun, a barrell of laughs, for as many teams to get involved as possible in the top league? Is the top league about producing the best hockey it can? Making it the best hockey for spectators? Producing elite players? Victoria being successful? Or is it about making everyone warm and fuzzy and holding hands and Victoria coming last?

Do these fringe clubs want to be gifted entry to the top league or earn it?
Do these fringe clubs know that it is not just hard to stay up in SL1 - it is ten times harder to be successful in SL1.
Sure, it will invigorate some clubs that are at the end of their tether with up down yo-yo. Wait until the bottom 4 teams are getting pounded every week - three never get relegated - and go through an entire existence of losing. 

There is not enough playing depth in Victoria to sustain the current level of hockey played with 10 teams with expansion to 12. For every SL1 team outside the top 6 now with 2 or 3 weak link players - the bottom 6 teams will have 3 or 4 weak links. How does this make the quality of matches better?

If people think fringe players not playing SL1 now will improve to improve the total standard of the competition when given opportunity - you are in dreamland. 10% of the players in the current 10 team comp are not up to standard and have probably been playing SL1 for 5 years. Add another 20% and you tell me how that improves the competition.

To bring 2 new teams in, secure the current bottom 2 and only drop 1 of them a year - PLUS insane seeding and uneven matches is FARCICAL.

What are HV doing?

Keep it at 10 teams and have 1 up and 1 down.

Or if they are so desperate to move to 12 - at least have 24 rounds over a longer season including mid week games TO MAKE IT FAIR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt fringe clubs stuck in the up down cycle of SL1 / SL2 need help over more than 1 year to remain in SL1.</p>
<p>But the proposed premier league rules are outrageous.</p>
<p>The rules not only assist these fringe clubs &#8211; they severely disadvantage the top tier clubs who have earned the right to be top tier clubs through decades of harder work in administration and on ground performance.</p>
<p>Has anyone closely looked at the 18 match schedule for 12 teams? The seeding and number of games between the top 4 and the bottom 2 is sickening.</p>
<p>What is HV trying to do? Make it easy and fun, a barrell of laughs, for as many teams to get involved as possible in the top league? Is the top league about producing the best hockey it can? Making it the best hockey for spectators? Producing elite players? Victoria being successful? Or is it about making everyone warm and fuzzy and holding hands and Victoria coming last?</p>
<p>Do these fringe clubs want to be gifted entry to the top league or earn it?<br />
Do these fringe clubs know that it is not just hard to stay up in SL1 &#8211; it is ten times harder to be successful in SL1.<br />
Sure, it will invigorate some clubs that are at the end of their tether with up down yo-yo. Wait until the bottom 4 teams are getting pounded every week &#8211; three never get relegated &#8211; and go through an entire existence of losing. </p>
<p>There is not enough playing depth in Victoria to sustain the current level of hockey played with 10 teams with expansion to 12. For every SL1 team outside the top 6 now with 2 or 3 weak link players &#8211; the bottom 6 teams will have 3 or 4 weak links. How does this make the quality of matches better?</p>
<p>If people think fringe players not playing SL1 now will improve to improve the total standard of the competition when given opportunity &#8211; you are in dreamland. 10% of the players in the current 10 team comp are not up to standard and have probably been playing SL1 for 5 years. Add another 20% and you tell me how that improves the competition.</p>
<p>To bring 2 new teams in, secure the current bottom 2 and only drop 1 of them a year &#8211; PLUS insane seeding and uneven matches is FARCICAL.</p>
<p>What are HV doing?</p>
<p>Keep it at 10 teams and have 1 up and 1 down.</p>
<p>Or if they are so desperate to move to 12 &#8211; at least have 24 rounds over a longer season including mid week games TO MAKE IT FAIR</p>
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		<title>Comment on International Super Series by Discovery Holiday Parks Perth</title>
		<link>http://www.thehockeyshow.org/main/ths/international-super-series/#comment-4399</link>
		<dc:creator>Discovery Holiday Parks Perth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2011 05:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are offering accommodation for guests/participants for your hockey tournament to be held in October 2011.

We are a four and half star accommodation consisting of villas, caravan and campsite areas. All of our villas are fully self contained, and our caravan and campsites have either grass, partially paved and fully paved areas. There is an extensive amenities block and travellers kitchen available for caravanners and campers. We also have a pool for guests to use.
 
Our villas can accommodate couples and also 5 and 6 berth sleeping arrangements.
 
We can be viewed at www.discoveryholiday parks.com.au or telephone or visit us at the address below.
 
Kind regards
 
Discovery Holiday Parks - Perth
186 Hale Road
FORRESTFIELD   WA   6058
Ph: 08 9453 6877
Fax: 08 9359 1787</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are offering accommodation for guests/participants for your hockey tournament to be held in October 2011.</p>
<p>We are a four and half star accommodation consisting of villas, caravan and campsite areas. All of our villas are fully self contained, and our caravan and campsites have either grass, partially paved and fully paved areas. There is an extensive amenities block and travellers kitchen available for caravanners and campers. We also have a pool for guests to use.</p>
<p>Our villas can accommodate couples and also 5 and 6 berth sleeping arrangements.</p>
<p>We can be viewed at <a href="http://www.discoveryholiday" rel="nofollow">http://www.discoveryholiday</a> parks.com.au or telephone or visit us at the address below.</p>
<p>Kind regards</p>
<p>Discovery Holiday Parks &#8211; Perth<br />
186 Hale Road<br />
FORRESTFIELD   WA   6058<br />
Ph: 08 9453 6877<br />
Fax: 08 9359 1787</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hockeyroos into Commonwealth Games Gold Medal Match by who would have thunk it?</title>
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		<dc:creator>who would have thunk it?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow what a game!!
Great work from both teams - the heat on the pitch would have been a killer!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow what a game!!<br />
Great work from both teams &#8211; the heat on the pitch would have been a killer!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Aussies out of World Cup by Big Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 21:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.1 v South Africa. Franko will be lucky to beat Scotland, although the heat will favour the Hockeyroos.

What is he doing taking 2 goalkeepers into the tournament? 

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/commonwealth-games/hockeyroos-held-to-draw-by-south-africa/story-fn65k7vp-1225936077116

So he puts Hurtz back on after dislocating her shoulder. the kid has no muscle and is not conditioned. of course it was going to pop again. I hope he hasn&#039;t ruined her shoulder for good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.1 v South Africa. Franko will be lucky to beat Scotland, although the heat will favour the Hockeyroos.</p>
<p>What is he doing taking 2 goalkeepers into the tournament? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/commonwealth-games/hockeyroos-held-to-draw-by-south-africa/story-fn65k7vp-1225936077116" rel="nofollow">http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/commonwealth-games/hockeyroos-held-to-draw-by-south-africa/story-fn65k7vp-1225936077116</a></p>
<p>So he puts Hurtz back on after dislocating her shoulder. the kid has no muscle and is not conditioned. of course it was going to pop again. I hope he hasn&#8217;t ruined her shoulder for good.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tulloch and Jenner amass 350 by tomato sauce</title>
		<link>http://www.thehockeyshow.org/main/ths/tulloch-and-jenner-amass-350/#comment-3990</link>
		<dc:creator>tomato sauce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 21:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>half the competition has played 150 games</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>half the competition has played 150 games</p>
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		<title>Comment on Aussies out of World Cup by tomato sauce</title>
		<link>http://www.thehockeyshow.org/main/ths/aussies-out-of-world-cup/#comment-3989</link>
		<dc:creator>tomato sauce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 21:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the hockeyroos beat India 2-1. if it wasn&#039;t for lynch in the net it may have been a diffrent result. just like rachel imison before her, who single handedly saved australia from slipping to 10th in the world without an ounce of gratitude from murray. imison would make 30 saves, they would win by a goal and murray would praise everyone but the victorian goalkeeper. good riddance to murray</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the hockeyroos beat India 2-1. if it wasn&#8217;t for lynch in the net it may have been a diffrent result. just like rachel imison before her, who single handedly saved australia from slipping to 10th in the world without an ounce of gratitude from murray. imison would make 30 saves, they would win by a goal and murray would praise everyone but the victorian goalkeeper. good riddance to murray</p>
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		<title>Comment on Aussies out of World Cup by red rooster</title>
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		<dc:creator>red rooster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 06:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the professor&quot; seems to know a lot about the situation.

current players in the team had him sacked. why is he still coaching the same girls that don&#039;t want him at the commonwealth games? what is hockey australia doing?

if anyone thinks the hockeyroos are a chance at gold in delhi, don&#039;t be so sure. england and nz (under mark hagar and 5 other aus coaches cast off by murray) will beat them. they will be lucky to finish 3rd. then franko will come out and say it was poor preparation, disruptions, unclean accommodation, etc. he has already started with his usual injury dramas before the tournament has even begun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the professor&#8221; seems to know a lot about the situation.</p>
<p>current players in the team had him sacked. why is he still coaching the same girls that don&#8217;t want him at the commonwealth games? what is hockey australia doing?</p>
<p>if anyone thinks the hockeyroos are a chance at gold in delhi, don&#8217;t be so sure. england and nz (under mark hagar and 5 other aus coaches cast off by murray) will beat them. they will be lucky to finish 3rd. then franko will come out and say it was poor preparation, disruptions, unclean accommodation, etc. he has already started with his usual injury dramas before the tournament has even begun.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Aussies out of World Cup by the professor</title>
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		<dc:creator>the professor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 02:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally. At last! Perhaps now someone will be appointed who has a clue about the skills that are needed to succeed at international level. I have grown tired of watching HA tournaments for under age girls over the last 10 years and watching the REAL talents never picked for national squads. Would someone now do a checklist of the REAL talents frank Murray has dispensed with since 2005...We have had the Alyson Annan talent replacements in Australian hockey, but they have walked away from national hockey as Murray does not recognise those type of skills. He selected strong physical players who did not have the skills to unlock an international defence. And then he talked always of being &quot;unlucky&quot; on the day! What rubbish. Charlesworth groomed a team of skill AND fitness that could DOMINATE, and not depend on lucky breaks. Perhaps only a former Maths teacher like Murray would be so lacking in vision as to think that if you place your strikers high on the goalline and then coach everyone to smash the ball up field to them to trap and off-load to running in mid-fielders is going to lead to enough goals to win on good days. The man had NO vision for SKILL to eliminate defends at pace a la Jamie Dwyer.....he picked pedestrian midfielders.....he would NEVER have selected and groomed a Naomi van Aas (Dutch midfielder who unlocks defences and penetrates with stickwork skill!). And then he is bewildered as to why the Dutch win CONSISTENTLY. Look instead at some of the midfielders and strikers Murray has persisted with after repeated failures.....he has brought them all back even after their failure to eliminate defenders at Beijing. He over-trained players in fitness, so the injury toll has been far worse. And did not coach or select on the basis of stick skills that have enabled a Jamie Dwyer to be the world&#039;s best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally. At last! Perhaps now someone will be appointed who has a clue about the skills that are needed to succeed at international level. I have grown tired of watching HA tournaments for under age girls over the last 10 years and watching the REAL talents never picked for national squads. Would someone now do a checklist of the REAL talents frank Murray has dispensed with since 2005&#8230;We have had the Alyson Annan talent replacements in Australian hockey, but they have walked away from national hockey as Murray does not recognise those type of skills. He selected strong physical players who did not have the skills to unlock an international defence. And then he talked always of being &#8220;unlucky&#8221; on the day! What rubbish. Charlesworth groomed a team of skill AND fitness that could DOMINATE, and not depend on lucky breaks. Perhaps only a former Maths teacher like Murray would be so lacking in vision as to think that if you place your strikers high on the goalline and then coach everyone to smash the ball up field to them to trap and off-load to running in mid-fielders is going to lead to enough goals to win on good days. The man had NO vision for SKILL to eliminate defends at pace a la Jamie Dwyer&#8230;..he picked pedestrian midfielders&#8230;..he would NEVER have selected and groomed a Naomi van Aas (Dutch midfielder who unlocks defences and penetrates with stickwork skill!). And then he is bewildered as to why the Dutch win CONSISTENTLY. Look instead at some of the midfielders and strikers Murray has persisted with after repeated failures&#8230;..he has brought them all back even after their failure to eliminate defenders at Beijing. He over-trained players in fitness, so the injury toll has been far worse. And did not coach or select on the basis of stick skills that have enabled a Jamie Dwyer to be the world&#8217;s best.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Aussies out of World Cup by Big Red Fat Head</title>
		<link>http://www.thehockeyshow.org/main/ths/aussies-out-of-world-cup/#comment-3984</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Red Fat Head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>murray was sacked, he did not &quot;retire&quot;

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/other/7962163/murray-quits-after-losing-top-players/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>murray was sacked, he did not &#8220;retire&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/other/7962163/murray-quits-after-losing-top-players/" rel="nofollow">http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/other/7962163/murray-quits-after-losing-top-players/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Aussies out of World Cup by Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.thehockeyshow.org/main/ths/aussies-out-of-world-cup/#comment-3983</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with big red. Murray could not coach a minkey win. Does anyone know how he still has a job? What a spin doctor. talks about London to shift focus on another shocking result. they will be lucky to qualify for the olympics with him in charge. Only the WA mafia at HA would believe his crap</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with big red. Murray could not coach a minkey win. Does anyone know how he still has a job? What a spin doctor. talks about London to shift focus on another shocking result. they will be lucky to qualify for the olympics with him in charge. Only the WA mafia at HA would believe his crap</p>
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